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Does anyone know why f1 and indycar design keeps diverging? there's only one optimal shape, right?

9:57AM Fri, June 01 2012

Fb053581a5afecdf0b52f3582f74811a_normal @breathlesstao

Generally speaking. But take a look at the tracks and also what's inside the cars, you'll see the differences there too.

9:59AM Fri, June 01 2012

Aaacd9918d8e842e2556d280eda015c3_normal @Tim_Stevens ALB

Indy has new regs to cover the wheels this year & prevent wheel-to-wheel crashes. F1 regs changed the shape of the nose section.

9:59AM Fri, June 01 2012

75l92f2n_normal @drewbam Jet City, USA

its not about optimizing the ideal car shape so much as it is about optimizing within the particular rules of the series.

9:59AM Fri, June 01 2012

A021a33e260dfe815475fd76043c38f4_normal @zpower Chicago, IL

ah, yeah, that new rear section is really bizarre.

10:00AM Fri, June 01 2012

Image_normal @gepeto42 iPhone: 45.5036...

rules and R&D $$$

10:00AM Fri, June 01 2012

870388329e66d9391c0fd9706a3b04c1_normal @PaulOBrien

but teams aren't allowed to make the perfect design, they have to make cars within the technical constraints of the series.

10:00AM Fri, June 01 2012

Conan_kudo_avatar_-_auto_leveled_normal @Det_Conan_Kudo Somewhere solving a case...

I believe so. Probably for stupid legal reasons or whatnot. There's always background legal wrangling going on...

10:00AM Fri, June 01 2012

110220-212410_normal @andref1989

does anyone know why a logical persons watches Indy and not formula 1?

10:00AM Fri, June 01 2012

Cc_logo_700_normal @cconover

my guess is it has to do with the rules each org creates. Also, the type of racing in each series is pretty different.

10:00AM Fri, June 01 2012

A795441659cc9c26f1f0ebd8421a1061_normal @mrcfield Lichfield

they’re bound by regulations as to the designs

10:01AM Fri, June 01 2012

Me_normal @Tim_DelucaSmith

for F1 it's largely down to regulation changes by the FIA (chassis design, tyres etc), and design around new components.

10:01AM Fri, June 01 2012

Aaacd9918d8e842e2556d280eda015c3_normal @Tim_Stevens ALB

Yup, def is. But supposedly it's already saved some nasty crashes. Haven't had time to watch any races, unfortunately.

10:02AM Fri, June 01 2012

2y50qi02r3mjoc46rp9s_normal @NovyxKrael Portland, OR

I’m fairly certain different shapes are more optimal for certain conditions. Cornering sharpness, overall top speed, total weight…

10:03AM Fri, June 01 2012

Me_normal @lmc981 Rome

Different regulations and different kind of races

10:05AM Fri, June 01 2012

Kermitswag_normal @Godzilla07

They're two different beasts. F1 changes from regulations and Indy didn't have a new car for years because incompetent management.

10:05AM Fri, June 01 2012

Ehoomlpm8s0xjwuvc9ca_normal @nwerneck São Paulo, SP, Brazil

Different power and speed settings should lead to different shapes... Also different tracks, etc. Not the same thing at all.

10:06AM Fri, June 01 2012

Juussosquareshirt_square_small_normal @juuuso New York

Different rulebooks. F1 has way more aerodynamic intricacies in it.

10:06AM Fri, June 01 2012

Madmen_icon_normal @atthefalcon Cork, Ireland

Probably because the regulations in either code dictate most of theshape of the cars, and the regs are diverging.

10:09AM Fri, June 01 2012

409109_10150557159916589_599826588_9230697_265829812_n_normal @IndefiniteBen Bournemouth, UK

Different regulations and amounts of money to spend! I think at least...

10:10AM Fri, June 01 2012

1_normal @d0mth0ma5 London, England

Because they aren't designing the most efficient car, they're designing the most efficient car defined by differing regulations.

11:15AM Fri, June 01 2012

A7cd0681cd8343c05d9f9f1ef4d97d64_normal @Gregz0r

Different restrictions on chassis/wing dimensions lead to different solutions.

11:17AM Fri, June 01 2012

A05612025e81de6a2b7af8d6bf48d7b8_normal @toplaff Galway, Ireland

Different Regulations. Also, different tyres and engines need different aero profiles to make the best trade-off.

11:19AM Fri, June 01 2012

6rk9bvgxef9xn4a9v7c9_normal @profernity

Different regulations? F1 regs dictated by 'increasing efficiency' + DRS for more (manipulated) passing moves = ugly step nose.

11:44AM Fri, June 01 2012

Eightbit-b5f7a995-1ccc-47eb-8963-2dcbdf35eda6_normal @Encryption

they’re each doing very different things. There is one optimal shape but that shape differs between them :)

12:11PM Fri, June 01 2012

581a147e7df463897f2515fcb65122e9_normal @nickdube Regina, SK, Canada

size of engine determines shape. Tho the aero should remain similar. Could be cost per drag too high

12:29PM Fri, June 01 2012

Climb-1--small_normal @kenjaydub Chicago

you would think so, but maybe the types of tracks they race on have significant differences

2:47PM Fri, June 01 2012

Phil_lee_normal @philrlee Manchester, UK

The current F1 shape evolved from rule changes to raise the nose and eliminate the blown diffuser.

3:18PM Fri, June 01 2012

Phil_lee_normal @philrlee Manchester, UK

Follow for excellent commentary on F1 design.

3:20PM Fri, June 01 2012

Aaacd9918d8e842e2556d280eda015c3_normal @Tim_Stevens ALB

Been following him for ages :)

3:39PM Fri, June 01 2012

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